Saturday, August 29, 2009

[Titanaircraft] Re: Buying a used Titan Tornado ll airplane

Thanks for the advise.
Hopefully next weekend I will be able to arange to see a few airplanes.
Dale

--- In Titanaircraft@yahoogroups.com, "ls78705" <lstavenhagen@...> wrote:
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> --- In Titanaircraft@yahoogroups.com, Tim Hansen <togoforth@> wrote:
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> > Hello, Dale.  You won't go wrong with either the 912 or the Jab 2200.  They are both fine engines.  Since I fly with the Jab, here are a few advantages that I see with this engine, IMHO.
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> > It's lighter than the 912.
> > It has fewer moving parts, i.e. no reduction drive (which needs periodic overhaul).
> > Oil cooler not necessary where you are.
> > No radiator to mess with.
> > Single carburator so you don't have to balance them.
> > Oil changes are a snap.
> > Cabin/carb heat easily set up with a heat muff and scat tubes.
> > A lot less plumbing than the 912. (another weight advantage)
> > If an engine can be called "pretty" the Jabiru is it!
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> > Tim Hansen
> > N4070F
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> Don't forget parts prices, which are just out of sight on the 912 series but far cheaper for the jab... ;)
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> That said, I'll make a plug for the 912's advantages:
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> - The gear drive allows more prop options. You can run diameters as high as 70" like I do on my II SS which allows very hefty climb rates. It's a myth that the gearbox needs regular overhaul. It does require some checks of the clutch and dog gear tension, etc., but it's supposed to last the life of the engine and generally does if you do the maintenance.
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> - the water cooling has the advantage of simpler installation. Long as you got a place to put the radiator I.e. on top of the wing, the engine itself doesn't require any air ducting or other extra cooling (except in cowled installations which doesn't apply to the titan).
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> - the 912 is a dry sump with a seperate oil tank. This makes the engine itself very low profile so it can be installed sitting right on top of the mount. This lowers the thrustline.
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> But don't let that stop you with the jab, as I wouldn't hesitate to go with a 2200 equipped plane. It really does have those advantages Tim listed, primarily parts prices if you do have buy parts. The 912 parts prices are absolutely scary (can you say 1000 bucks for a CDI box, otherwise about $30 of parts from digikey if you were able to build one yourself? How about $200 a pop for valves? at least 12 large for an overhaul?).
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> I love my 912 but I would also fly under a 2200 with not a thought ;)
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> LS
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> > --- On Fri, 8/28/09, dfm4290 <dfm4290@> wrote:
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> > From: dfm4290 <dfm4290@>
> > Subject: [Titanaircraft] Buying a used Titan Tornado ll airplane
> > To: Titanaircraft@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 9:49 AM
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> > I,m new to this group.
> > I,m looking to buy a used Titan Tornado ll.
> > I will want a four stroke engine in the plane.
> > What are the advantages of the Rotax 912 vs the Jabiru 2200?
> > Is their any obvious problems that accrue with this airplane?
> > also is there anyone around Minneapolis, MN area That would be willing to give me a ride to see what the plane is like?
> > Thanks
> > Dale
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