Monday, December 7, 2009

RE: [Titanaircraft] Re: Any Tornado S or SS for sale in US or Canada

150 perhaps, but not the 152, which is what I referenced.

I got my PP ticket in a brand new one in 1982, so they were still making
them then!

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From: Titanaircraft@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Titanaircraft@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of ls78705
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 9:22 AM
To: Titanaircraft@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Titanaircraft] Re: Any Tornado S or SS for sale in US or Canada

--- In Titanaircraft@ <mailto:Titanaircraft%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, "Terry Savage" <chaosrider@...> wrote:
> Anyone know what a fully equipped (ie, full avionics) C-152 cost in 1989?
Or
> if they had stopped making them by then, the last year they sold in
> significant numbers?

Looks like the 150 ceased production in 1977. Not positive, but that's
suggested here:

http://en.wikipedia <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cessna_150>
.org/wiki/Cessna_150

> And, anyone who's flown both knows that the CT is a hell of lot more
> airplane than the 152 ever thought of being. 48" wide, to start with! I'm
> wide, and my instructor is no tiny guy, and we didn't even bump shoulders.
> It's as wide as a 206! The avionics in the CT didn't even EXIST in 1989.
>

It's also at least 5x the cost in terms of purchase price over a 150 in good
shape. You can buy and fly a 150 for a long time with 130 grand, including
annuals and maintenance (those costs can be mitigated by owner-assist).

I did my primary in a 150M and in a couple of 152's. Except for my IISS, the
150 is my favorite flying plane. Very stable and predictable, strong and
well built. Crappy view, but you'd have the same problem to a slightly
lesser degree in the CTLS.

You can also buy 150's with regular day VFR panels without all the useless
glass panel stuff (if you intend to fly VFR only). This doesn't seem to be
an option with most SLSA's - you're stuck with those queer semi-IFR panels
with EFIS's and engine monitors along with the extra cost. And no sane pilot
would fly an SLSA IFR, much less in actual. You can do that in the 150 tho -
it's an acceptable IFR platform (tho not great for really long hauls).

So the comparison is kind of a mixed bag, including the fact that the 150 is
long since out of production and requires a class III med. to fly.

But to be honest based on my experience with it, if I had to choose between
the two I'd go with the 150 pretty much hands down.

Or i'd ditch both and get a titan.... Er.. wait a minute...... ;)

LS

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