my Tornado S model. I had added the large fin to the nose wheel pant and
when flying it with the direct steering still intact, the adverse yaw from
the new front rudder was terrible. I quickly ordered the spring steering
components, installed them, then test flew once again. Well, the adverse
yaw was corrected, but I absolutely couldn't stand the poor ground control I
now had to deal with. I knew I was going to make a change the day I went to
a fly-in with my wife while during a group take-off I had to drop one wheel
off the runway to make room for another plane. There was a slight slope in
the grass, and wouldn't you know it, I couldn't get that bird to turn left
to save my life.
I was so used to the impressive tight maneuvering on grass or pavement with
the direct steering that the spring steering just had to go. I converted
back to direct steering, then cut the fin down to about 3" long. Aah...back
to my kind of flying.
Randy
-----Original Message-----
From: Titanaircraft@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Titanaircraft@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Hugh Sontag
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:32 PM
To: Titanaircraft@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Titanaircraft] Re: Fin on front wheel pant
Well, I learned something!
The person I bought my plane from told me that he tried both direct
steering and spring steering, and that the direct steering was much
better.
And my nose wheel pant has a fin on it.
I've always noticed that the airplane is sensitive in yaw, but I've
learned to keep the ball centered anyway.
It seems that with the direct steering, I shouldn't have a fin!
Anyone have comments on direct vs spring steering?
Hugh
>Hugh,
>
>The fin is only to keep the pant facing forward into the air stream
>with spring steering. Titan disconnected the direct steering in lieu
>of spring steering when running a nose wheel pant. With spring
>steering and without the fin, the pant can turn off center due to
>the air stream because it doesn't have a heavy positive dynamic
>balance. If you have the fin on the wheel pant with direct steering,
>you end up losing yaw stability, which causes the airplane ot 'hunt'
>when trying to hold a heading, and is also hyper-sensitive around
>neutral.
>
>--Kimberly
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Hugh Sontag
>To: <mailto:Titanaircraft%40yahoogroups.com>Titanaircraft@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 2:34 AM
>Subject: Re: [Titanaircraft] Re: Started Flying with the Jab 2200
>
>Kimberly,
>
>Could you expand a little bit on your comment?
>
>If you use direct steering, a wheel pant on the nosewheel shouldn't
>have the fin on it?
>
>Thanks,
>Hugh
>
>>
>>
>>Rob,
>>
>>I hope you are using the spring steering for your nosewheel if you
>>have the fin on it.
>>
>>--Kimberly
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: jrceacampo
>>To:
>><mailto:Titanaircraft%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:Titanaircraft%40yahoogroup
s.com>Titanaircraft@yahoogroups.com
>>Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 2:25 PM
>>Subject: [Titanaircraft] Re: Started Flying with the Jab 2200
>>
>>I do have the streamlined gear installed, (the Deluxe wheel pants
>>kit from Titan). Although I did not have the pants on as I started
>>testing the plane out of a grass(turf) runway. I'll put them on once
>>I polish them a bit more.
>>
>>The front wheel pant has a fin in the back and I'm not sure this
>>could have an effect on my flying. I thought about it for later on...
>>
>>Thanks, Rob.
>>
>>--- In
>><mailto:Titanaircraft%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:Titanaircraft%40yahoogroup
s.com>Titanaircraft@yahoogroups.com,
>>Kimberly Panos <kimberly@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> Rob,
>>>
>>> Wheelpants are worth different amounts the faster you go. Also, it
>>>has been reported that an un-streamlined gear leg can cause as much
>>>or more drag than an un-faired tire. If you are running both the
>>>streamlined gear leg material and wheelpants, you might see 3-5 MPH
>>>starting from 100 MPH without them.
>>>
>>> --Kimberly
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: jrceacampo <jrceacampo@...>
>>> To:
>>><mailto:Titanaircraft%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:Titanaircraft%40yahoogrou
ps.com>Titanaircraft@yahoogroups.com
>>> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 1:19:11 PM
>>> Subject: [Titanaircraft] Re: Started Flying with the Jab 2200
>>>
>>>
>>> Since I don't have a VSI is a little more difficult right now that
>>>I'm getting use to it. I'll have concentrate on the altimeter next
>>>time; I figured that it might be a possibility due to the view from
>>>the cockpit. I'm cruising at around 2850.
>>>
>>> What increase should I expect with the pants on? is it also
>>>noticeable adding the nose wheel pant?
>>>
>>> Thanks both for your input!
>>> Rob.
>>>
>>> --- In Titanaircraft@ yahoogroups. com, Jim Covington <jim@> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > If you're not climbing, then you're not pitched too high.
>>> >
>>> > "boots" or pants on the wheels will give you a significant speed
boost.
>>> >
>>> > What's your cruise RPM? That's one way to tell if you have the pitch
set
>>> > right.
>>> >
>>> > jrceacampo wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > Hi All;
>>> > >
>>> > > I just started flying my Tornado 2 with a Jab 2200 and I had some
>>> > > questions based on the first numbers I'm getting:
>>> > >
>>> > > 1. So far RPM is around 3000 on take off maybe to 3100max. Cruise:
I'm
> >> > > getting around 100-105 Mph which I believe is a bit less than
>>> > > expected. I'm still adjusting to the attitude of the plane so I
might
>>> > > be flying a bit pitch up. I don't have the boots on the tires
>>>yet as well.
>>> > >
>>> > > 2. All engine readings seems good, but the EGTs (2 rear cylinders)
are
>>> > > constantly at around 740 degrees C. I saw in the manual 680-720
should
>>> > > be normal, is this because I'm breaking in the engine?
>>> > >
>>> > > 3. I have a Warp drive prop 64" set at 11 degrees, should I adjust
it
>>> > > to get more cruise? Climb rate seems quite good.
>>> > >
>>> > > Thanks for your advice,
>>> > > Rob.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>>
>>
>>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>>
>
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>
>
>
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