They have many types of individual compoents as well, mainly all for aircraft engines. The kit for the 912-series sells for $214 and doesn't look like much for the money, but it is very effective in keeping the oil flowing in the cold. They also sell a thermostat for $39 that allows it to be plugged in indefinitely. It turns on the heaters when the temperatures drop below the setting you set on the dial. They also sell a heating element for the oil cooler for $98.
--Kimberly
----- Original Message -----
From: ls78705
To: Titanaircraft@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 10:32 AM
Subject: [Titanaircraft] Re: Flying in cold weather
--- In Titanaircraft@yahoogroups.com, "Peter" <pcowan41@...> wrote:
>
> This I find interesting (no problems down to 10F) because several 912 engines I've had, both 80 an 100hp have convinced me to plan on either pre-heat or boost below freezing and if I'm going to overnight away from hydro take along a propane preheater. What are the secrets in addition to minimum plug gap and good battery for starting without assist at 10F?
> I do agree that it is much easier on the engine to preheat at lower temps but I can't help but look at my old Ford Escort with 300000 km that starts right up in almost any weather even when I've forgotten to plug it in and still doesn't burn a drop of oil.
> Peter
>
Not sure, but mine always cranked right up, tho with a little more cranking time and stumbling than in above freezing temps. I always had full oil pressure instantly too with 10w40 oil.
Part of it may be I always pull the prop through before starting, usually to check the oil, but I always do at least 4 blades to check for hydraulic lock even when I don't check it. When it's cold that's a bunch of blades until i hear the gurgle when I am checking the oil level.
But I'm still not taking any more chances since I've now heard enough to be convinced I need to preheat below freezing anyway.
Mine won't be the 650 buck thing tho, I'm going shopping for heating pads today and will put something like that together..
LS
>
>
> --- In Titanaircraft@yahoogroups.com, "ls78705" <lstavenhagen@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In Titanaircraft@yahoogroups.com, Jim Covington <jim@> wrote:
> > >
> > > How timely. The Rotax Tanis heater:
> > >
> > > http://www.rotax-owner.com/reviews/tanis-MAIN.htm
> > >
> >
> > Eeeeyikes..... $650 tho..... ouch...
> >
> > Er, I think I'll try the heating pad thing myself.
> >
> > I didn't have problems last year starting in weather as cold as 10F, but I'm still going to use preheat this year just to be safe.
> >
> > LS
> > > lwoods102 wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Andre:
> > > >
> > > > With respect to heat, if you are using a water-cooled engine (Rotax
> > > > 912, or 582) just add a small heater core to the cockpit and siphon
> > > > off some of the coolant. It took me a while to find acceptable
> > > > hardware to complete this task but I ended up with an excellent
> > > > cockpit heating system and the cost was quite modest.
> > > >
> > > > I fly all winter in Ontario and have not experienced any untoward
> > > > starting problems with the Rotax engines whether two stroke or four.
> > > > It is important to take all steps required to keep the engine running
> > > > within its proper operating temperatures in cold weather.
> > > >
> > > > If you are operating in very cold temperatures, you can buy a silicone
> > > > heater pad and glue it to the bottom of the engine (with RTV). These
> > > > are very inexpensive devices and work very well. A 50 to 75 watt pad
> > > > is more than adequate for sub zero temperatures.
> > > > Be sure to install it properly with appropriate fusing, etc.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Larry
> > > >
> > > > n Titanaircraft@yahoogroups.com
> > > > <mailto:Titanaircraft%40yahoogroups.com>, "girarda11" <girarda@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I have tried a Tornado 2 for the first time yesterday and I was
> > > > extremely impressed. It flies very well and is surprisingly
> > > > comfortable considering the size of the front cockpit. As I almost
> > > > always fly alone, tbe size of the back cockpit will only be relevant
> > > > as luggage space.
> > > > >
> > > > > As I live in a place where the winter is cold and there is a lot of
> > > > snow, I have a few questions related to the use of the Tornado during
> > > > the winter:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1) What is the best engine for flying in the winter: the Jabiru 2200
> > > > or the Rotax 912? In particular, I am wondering if any of them is
> > > > likely to start well without preheating?
> > > > >
> > > > > 2) I would like to fit wheel-skis in the winter. Is there any
> > > > problem using skis on the Jabiru. In particular, based on the previous
> > > > discussion about direct steering vs spring steering, is spring
> > > > steering compatible with ski use?
> > > > >
> > > > > 3) What is the best way to have cabin heat?
> > > > >
> > > > > André
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>
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